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Is Diamond Way Buddhism a CULT??
typing_sound wrote in buddhistgroup
I think this is quite an important topic, since one of our members is thinking of going to a Diamond Way Buddhism centre. I did a little searching, and there are some testimonies of women being sexually harassed, and a lot of claims that the tradition is inauthentic and a cult. If you guys could help me, by either doing some research or sharing what you know about the tradition, that would really help me out! We don't want one of our members taking the poison cool-aid mixture, am I right?! It's time for Community Action! Dun-duh-duuhhh! Lol

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Speaking of cults in western Buddhism, the exemple of the Friends of Western Buddhist Order (FWBO) is a classical case.

Very sobering...

Read here:



So, going back to my earlier point, you must have personal experience of the FWBO to be criticising it?

I know people in the FWBO, they are not cult members. They're good people.

Please don't criticise what you don't know and haven't experienced.

FWBO aknowledged that they had big problems with one of their centers and they closed it.

But their former leader has never aknowledged that his teachings about women, heterosexuality and family life might be interpreted in a way that lead to these abuses.

He has never aknowledged that he himself might have had an unethical behaviour.

Although the most blattant problems exposed in the Guardian were corrected, their leader still holds that his actions were totally ethical.

When a leader think that he is blameless, then a spiritual movement is on a dangerous path.

It's not all black and white

For me the first question is what is the teacher's lineage? Who gave him/her the transmission of the realised state of mind passed on from the Buddha to our time, who certified his realisation and who instructed him to teach?
I mean, it's not the only question, but it should be question #1 if you want to have a cat in hell's chance of finding something reliable.

Re: It's not all black and white

I agree.

In the particular case of FWBO, their former leader Sanghrakshita doesn't seem to have belonged to any authentic lineage long enough to be considered a spiritual heir to any one.

Even if he was very knowledgeable about Buddhism in general he had not refined his ethics under a teacher/master/guru guidance.

As Ocha would say he needed to practice his precepts and care more about Vinaya.

And without ethics refinement harm is bound to follow.

In short, Sangharakshita was not enlightened, but acted as if he was and this did cause harm to some people around him.

Re: It's not all black and white

I agree too. The question of lineage and authorisation to teach is actually the most important question.

That is shocking. In the Guardian as well. Of course, there's always the chance they're lieing, but since there are a few saying the same story, I'm inclined to believe them.

I saw Ole in Lima. He has a stong motivation to stop Alah in Europe. It is like a slogan, but in South America doesnt stick. Cristianity has changed since times of inquisition, Why not muslims ?.
He is not a humble person. Someone asked him to lower the price of powha retirement to get more people. He answered if you have money are more educated and could understand his message. (He doesnt think in drug dealers money )
He is sure ,that the fact to has been born in Europe make a person more spiritual than africans.
He is a vain person, but product of meditation alongs his live ,he had some qualities proper from meditation or maybe some good tricks.
Im Buddhist, and the diamond group make a good effort to translate and spread good buddha knowdlege ( a good point), but my friend Ole is not a wise people, and could lead people away the path.
Well there is another things to make you think ...........
I saw two argentinian girls in his twenties had a tongue kiss with him in front of everyone in the phowa
One of the is his translator was touching his leg while we meditated.
Well ,is you are young and want to have sex with every girl in diamond way go ahead , if they let you. There are no guarantee that its happens....
But if you are a family guy, think in your daugther. Cause i wish you ,you can see her grow in freedom enviromment without a personality cult to Lama Ole or another . Then when she grow up is her problem.
In other words " I dont want to raise a daughter to be fresh meat for the guru"

Like in other cults i saw some goods persons looking the right way, but ..............

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